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KC, i didn't mention it because i didn't want to rub it in, but i live in south florida. today: 74degF, 70% humidity, wind NE 10mph. we had a "cold" front go through last night, so the wind and humidity are little different than usual. both palmetto, and calusa country club are just a few minutes away. for those with a fat wallet, doral or the biltmore are about 20 minutes north of here. lw